tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1732419353192522892.post7698528408790012170..comments2011-03-01T08:10:28.706-08:00Comments on English 416R Special Topics in Cinema Studies: The Documentary: As Nazi as we want her to be?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04189766410883678406noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1732419353192522892.post-87694452741239834982011-01-19T22:37:15.545-08:002011-01-19T22:37:15.545-08:00I don't know why Meg or anyone should care abo...I don't know why Meg or anyone should care about the author, really... Except that for me knowing something about the author helps put a work into a certain context - adding a certain enrichment, which is difficult to describe in any tangible way. <br /><br />A point that Van has brought up on several occasions is that "Triumph of the Will" hugely impacted Riefenstahl's life. For me, it's interesting to wonder how Reifenstahl's life affected "Triumph of the Will" because I like to see things come full-circle. <br /><br />In the case of Jennings, I'm very interested in the fact that he liked to paint and that he preferred it to making films. Largely because his films were successful as an accident of fate (right place, right time) and his paintings were not. And it's interesting to see that something he didn't entirely care for (his films) became his legacy - while in his mind those films were his "day job." None of this changes the text that are the films - it's just supplementary; but at the same time, had Jennings' interests been different, had he been obsessed with his films as he was with his painting, the films that he produced would have been markedly different. Despite what our opinions are regarding authorship, there is no escaping the fact that a creator is behind each created work. And that had the creator been different, the created would be different. So, it's sometimes interesting to consider the nuances of the creator and how they may have played in to the created. Of course, most film work is collaborative, so there are many variables to consider when working through the "creator calculus" but there is still a calculus. <br /><br />In a similar manner, it is also interesting to consider cultural norms, eras, geographical locations, time periods, etc. and how these things "program" people and influence what sorts of creations come into existence. Works are not created in vacuums; there are many connections, factors, and variables that play into what will be created - and it seems useful to critique works from all possible perspectives, using as many tools and frameworks as possible. An "author is dead" perspective will yield different, and useful, interpretations than will a perspective that leans more toward auteurship or historical or phenomenological or etc. <br /><br />It's all good...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04189766410883678406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1732419353192522892.post-10369802507496352252011-01-19T19:40:32.728-08:002011-01-19T19:40:32.728-08:00I guess this goes along with your post Van, but al...I guess this goes along with your post Van, but also with what Jans said in class today about authorship. I happen to see the interest in the directors because they have given us such beautiful pieces like you said about Riefenstahl(I shouldn't reference Winona Ryder she wasn't a Nazi, but her alleged shop lifting was not good for her career either), but other than the minimal interest I have in their life, much like my minimal interest in celebrity gossip I just don't care. Lets be honest, I spent an hour doing the same web connections like that of Jans with directors, but I did it with Casey Affleck and Joaquin Phoenix( oh the fascinating connections between celebrity’s). It was interesting, but it did not change the films that they have directed or acted in. So my point is Why? Why should I care? ( I do not say this out of disrespect you know I love you Van) But really why should I care. Other than to fill a page I would not have put any information about Jennings true love being painting because that doesn't change Listen to Britain. I need some reason to bring the author back from the dead, we killed him awhile ago with the “death of the author” and maybe the pendulum is swinging back to the side of caring about the author, but if it is will some one give me a reason why it should matter to me. If I don't get a logical answer I am just going to assume its much like celebrity gossip fascinating but useless. So I write this post not because I know anything, but because I am questioning everything.Meghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03587418125729135454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1732419353192522892.post-4636542467568185372011-01-19T19:36:54.064-08:002011-01-19T19:36:54.064-08:00I think that it can be important to look more into...I think that it can be important to look more into the director's life when evaluating their work. Riefenstahl's personal history and life is so interesting that I definitely think it influences her work. In my opinion, it makes the film more interesting if you know some background information about it, including info about the director. When you know more about their personal life and views and you see hints of it in their work, it makes the film more interesting and then it opens up a larger discussion about the film. It makes the film more enjoyable to debate about and to speculate different reasons why the director did certain things. That is just my two bits about the importance of knowing more about the director. <br /><br />However, I do see Jans' point when she used the example about how it's not important to know about an author of a book because I'm share those same views. I don't care to know much about the author's personal life, I just love to read the story and take from it what I chose to. But, I don't feel the same way about movies and I don't know why. It is a strange thing but there is just something different about movies that makes me want to know more information about the history and the making behind it. <br /><br />Anyway, take what you will from my comments, I just wanted to put it out there.TheMuranoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14962294164863352951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1732419353192522892.post-51155750652287084192011-01-18T19:05:38.402-08:002011-01-18T19:05:38.402-08:00I think you make an interesting point here. Watch...I think you make an interesting point here. Watching these films, I can see that Riefenstahl certainly has an interest in beauty for its own sake. And, I too, wonder what other works of art she might have created had she been thrown into a different set of circumstances.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04189766410883678406noreply@blogger.com